Bikes

• 1: Compared
• 1.1: Braaap Moto EV5, EV8 and EV10
• 1.2: Evoke Urban Classic and S
• 1.3: Harley Davidson Live Wire
• 1.4: Savic
• 1.5: Super Soco TC Max
• 1.6: Verge TS
• 1.7: Zero
• 2: Braaap Moto EV5
• 3: Honda CB125e

1 - Compared

Approximate prices - 2022, Australia

Bike	Price	Details	Motor	Battery	Notes
Braaap EV5	$5000	5kW	6kW	Cheap sports bike
Braaap EV8	$7000	5kW	6kW	Cheap sports bike
Braaap EV10	$8500	5kW	6kW	Cheap sports bike
Evoke Urban	$16000
Harley LiveWire	$35000
Savic	$27000
Verge TS	$36000
Zero	$25000

To be reviewed

• Novus One - US$54,000
• Weaver - cheap, like U$2000, 1.5kW
• DAB Concept E - US$11,000
• Sonda Meta Cycle - US$5,000 - 10hp, 4kWh battery
• Fonzarelli NKDa and NKD+ Electric (8kW?), + 12kW?
  • AUS$10,000
  • Belt drive
  • Top speed 80kmh?
  • The + has top speed 100kmh
  • 150km range

1.1 - Braaap Moto EV5, EV8 and EV10

• Price (approx)
  • EV5 $5000 (note, no ABS)
  • EV8 $7000
  • EV10 $8300
• Availablility ?
• Servicing - 1000km then every 3000km
• Warranty ?
• Battery
  • EV5 - 80Ah, 72V, 5.7kWh
  • EV8 - 100aH, 72V, 7.2kWh
  • EV10 - 120aH, 72V, 8.6kWh

Variations in Models

It was not clear in purchase, but the 5000W version, does not have ABS or adjustable suspension. It appears the EV8 and EV10 do have both of these.

1.2 - Evoke Urban Classic and S

• Evoke Urban Classic - hub drive, 19kw, 8.5kwH, 4kW charge, $?
  • J1772 Type 1 charger
• Evoke Urban S

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCvaxuG1UR8

• Price
  • Classic = $16,500
  • S = $16,000
• Specs (the Classic)
  • Hub Motor 20kW
• Availablility ?
• Servicing ?
• Warranty ?

Compared to Braaap

This is between 2 and 4 times the kW and has a lot larger range (250km), and about 2 to 4 times the price.

1.3 - Harley Davidson Live Wire

• Price = AUD $35,000
• Availablility ?
• Servicing ?
• Warranty ?

1.4 - Savic

• Price $27,000
• Availablility End of 2022
• Power 60kW (not LAMS)
• Battery 16kWh
• Servicing ?
• Warranty ?

1.5 - Super Soco TC Max

https://vmotosoco.com.au/model/super-soco-tc-max-spoke-wheel/

• Price ?
• Availablility ?
• Servicing ?
• Warranty ?

1.6 - Verge TS

These are amazing beautiful invovative bikes, but super expensive, 25,000 euros

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7oTg6XJsnk

• Price = AUD $36,236
• Availablility ?
• Servicing ?
• Warranty ?

1.7 - Zero

They seem to be second hand in Australia, can’t find new ones.

Zero SR

• Price
  • New approx $25,000 approx
  • Second hand $15,000
  • MICRO PAYMENTS !!! You have to pay for upgrades even through they are already in it !

Zero Upgrades via Software

We Need To Talk About ZERO Motorcycles

Everything is an upgrade. You pay to turn on the already installed heated handlebars. You pay to charge faster. You pay for software updates to use more battery. Just NO! This has to stop. We can’t allow this model into our lives.

2 - Braaap Moto EV5

Braaap Sale Page

Initial impressions

This is a cheaply made, mostly rebranded, bulk Chinese built motorbike. However, that isn’t a bad thing. Braaap have brought it to Australia for a really cheap price. I’ve seen videos of people importing models (clearly same factory, even though slightly different) into America for far higher price. Initially they look cheaper, but getting approval, import duties, GST, and most importantly, getting the actual thing you wanted - all this work has been done by Braaap!

When it comes to the bike frame, brakes, shocks etc, I am not a great judge, as I just don’t have the experience and I’ve frankly never before ridden a sport bike. From that limitaiton though, I find it appears to be well constructed, functional and easy to ride.

The controller used and hub motor is very common and used for many people who have done home conversions.

Connectors for electronics are pretty standard, and the battery charging and probably added battery, uses anderson plugs.

Updating, upgrading, modifying so far has been a breeze.

I have questions not answers, like how the hell do I remove the back wheel to replace a tyre, does it TRUELY require me to pull apart everything to get the wire out to remove the wheel and tyre. Its like it has been installed the same way people used to be sewn into their clothing.

You get what you pay for. Want something with DC charging etc, buy something more expensive. This is a both a cheap bike (build quality) and a cheap bike ($).

Totally no regrets, I see many years of play and upgrades to this bike.

Details

These are ongoing and included in my ride blog. Here is some basic bullet points.

• Price - Amazing
  • Compared to other brands, a fraction of the price
  • Compared to importing from China, about the same, but none of the huge hassle
  • Individual parts - battery 2k, hub 1k, control 900 - that is almost the price of the bike, without a frame, brakes or wheels. It is a good price.
• Handling
  • I really don’t know. I’m not experienced enough riding
• Performance (power)
  • Plenty for me. Way more than my 125.
  • I strongly recommend people review 8k or 10k if you are already a rider
• Upgrade / Hackability
  • Totally!
• Build Quality - pretty average, maybe a little below average
  • Components and Connectors have been loose
  • Wires have needed cable ties where pinched

3 - Honda CB125e

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